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MikeKeymasterHi
We are still struggling with the each way options as the old enemy are being very mean with there prices. π
But we will try Minella Buddy @ 33-4 for 9 places and Handysonofdan @ 9-1 for 8 places.
We have already used Gabriel Ranger on the exchanges last night on the Ridiculous Ideas for 2024 thread where we backed him at just over 10-1 and have just placed a lay bet this morning at 7-1 to cover our backs. This a new thing we are dabbling with which we will go into slowly as it is a bit difficult to get your head around. π
MikeKeymasterHi
The kiss of death never fails and we came up shy in the last wager. But we still have our all or nothing bet of +23.61 to use up and we have been waiting for tonight so its all in on the following three games.
Crawley v Barrow Over 0 goals in the game + Over 3 corners for both teams @ 10-11
Mansfield v Accrington Over 0 goals for Mansfield + over 4 corners Mansfield + over 2 corners Accrington @ 10-11
Notts County v Stockport Over 0 goals for Stockport + Over 1 goal in the game + Over 3 corners Notts County + Over 2 corners Stockport @ 20-23
This comes out at approximately 5.8-1 on the treble and we will go with 3x 5 point win doubles which leaves a 8.61 treble.
We will also introduce the idea of exchange betting which is something we have not touched on here before as it can be risky and also complicated ie Ridiculous Ideas for 2024. But as an example we have backed Leinster at 11-10 for this weekends Rugby and hope to lay the game later in the week. This is just something we want to try out and will explain it in greater detail later in the week.
MikeKeymasterHi
Our Chris is playing well enough but unfortunately cannot cut it against the big guns at present. π
However this week all the Scheffler’s, McIlroy’s and Cantlay’s etc are playing in the RBC Heritage and our boy is available at 55-1 for 10 places in the Corales Puntacana Championship where the opposition is less daunting. π
So it’s Chris Gotterup all the way we have gone with the 55-1 for 10 places and will also back him at 100-1 on the exchanges hoping to cover our backs with a lay bet if he starts well. You can get 66-1 each way 6 places to be first round leader if you feel bold.
The “exchanges” are something we are currently dabbling with they can be complicated but we have an example here on our new Ridiculous Ideas for 2024 thread and you will probably see more of this type of wager crop up over the next few weeks.
MikeKeymasterHi Suds
Strangely, at about the same time you were posting I was backing Leinster at evens on the exchange’s.π€£
I will flip this idea over to the goalposts thread to try it out. π
As for this thread the next “Ridiculous Idea” is not far off and may revolve around how Gabriel Ranger does in the 3.15 at Naas. This one we put up at 12-1 last night and backed on the exchanges just over 10-1. (Remember you can only take what you get offered). We hope to trade this one off this morning when the markets open up. π¬
MikeKeymasterHi
We will have a dabble tomorrow over at Naas with the following options
1.30 Minella Buddy 50-1
1.30 Handysonofdan 50-1
2.05 Cheerful Chap @ 7-1 for 5 places
2.40 Ayiko @ 7-1
3.15 Gabriel Ranger @ 12-1
4.25 Cullenwaine @ 20-1 for 5 places
We are going with the highlighted options but also with the each way doubles option and will update the 1.30 tomorrow as we are looking for extra markets and they are about as rare as hens teeth at present. π
MikeKeymasterHi Suds
Ask Joe he has hit 9 corners a dozen times when he has been going for over 9 and I backed a horse a few days ago that had run 9.34, 9.21 and 9.18 on its only three runs (ultra consistent). This time same ground, same trip, had run at the track before and he turned in a 10.01. π
I know it is what it is…. but it is crazy. π
MikeKeymasterHi
Here are the final results for the 2023/2024 NH Ten To Follow competition
Line 1 Early Doors (Mike) Total points 2023/24 +467.23
Protektorat +66.20
Stage Star +22.20
Iberico Lord +74.30
Monbeg Genius +2.90
Botox Has +25.00
Editeur De Gite +28.20
Allaho +21.20 (set back) ??
LβHomme Presse +12.30
Bravemansgame +25.70
State Man +156.30
Il Etait Temps +32.40
Line 2 Clarence (Suds) Total points 2023/24 + 372.99
El Fablio +49.50
Facile Vega +12.42
Fast or Slow +46.20
Ahoy Senior +15.00
Coolvalla (injured) ??
Luccia +27.80
Impaire Passe +54.40
Teahupoo +82.55
Bo Zenith (injured) ??
Captain Teague +29.30
Ballyburn +27.80
Lossiemouth +28.20
Line 3 Rkay Total Points 2023/24 +406.27
El Fablio +49.50
Jonbon +127.55
Ahoy Senor +15.00
Bravemansgame +25.70
Coolvalla (injured) ??
Constituion Hill +27.20
Luccia +27.80
Maries Rock +23.60
Bo Zenith (injured) ??
Captain Teague +29.20
Fact To File +52.82
Ballyburn +27.80
Line 4 Mgame Total points 2023/24 +625.88
Stage Star +22.20
Galopin Des Champs +158.11
Bravemansgame +25.70
Gerri Colombe +82.07
Monbeg Genius +2.90
Constitution Hill +27.20 (set back)
State Man +156.30
Maries Rock +23.60
JPR One +29.60
Brighterdaysahead +43.90
Gaelic Warrior +54.30
Line 5 Mike Total points 2023/24 +485.59
Marine Nationale +12.30 (set back)
Jonbon +127.55
Nemean Lion +25.20
Shiskin +22.93
Mr Incredible +2.50
Constitution Hill +27.20 (set back)
Botox Has +25.00
Monbeg Genius +2.90
Galopin Des Champs +158.11
El Fablio +49.50
Ashroe Diamond 0
Il Etait Temps +32.40
Line 6 Mike (LS) Donations Total points +532.07
Marine Nationale +12.30 (set back)
Facile Vega +12.42
Shiskin +22.92
Fastorslow +46.20
Gerri Colombe +82.07
Gaelic Warrior +94.20
Teahupoo +82.55
Corbetts Cross +40.08
Mirazur West +37.72
Ballyburn +69.20
Il Etait Temps +32.40
Although we did not win any cash I hope it was fun for all those that entered and many thanks for joining in. π
It also raised a few quid extra for the donations to LS and hats off this year to Mgame who finished on +625.88 which kept our record of improving our top line score year on year intact. π
It was a tough early ride for line 3 Perry and line 4 Suds who both had horses that were injured and never ran which put them at a distinct disadvantage from the start, but unfortunately such is life. π When I say injured there were minor injuries that put them out just for this season. π
I hope to see a few of you next year I know G (Mgame) has moved on to better things cough..lol (a rival site) but it’s nice that old members still keep in touch and still follow the site. We are always open to new faces just sign up and join in. π
MikeKeymasterHi
No joy with either wager today and unfortunately with the National Hunt season all but over (apart from the Punchestown festival) we are going into semi hibernation on the racing. As you can see we were scratching around for a bet today. π We will be looking to keep all the threads going and will as usual find something to bet on even if it is something new. There will always be the odd meeting and there are two Irish NH racecards this week but the pickings might be slim. ?
MikeKeymasterHi
Mr Incredible was hampered and unseated early doors in the National so we will never know. π
However, at long last there is some Irish NH racing going and it is at Down Royal tomorrow.
2.30 Spatman De Crisy @ 16-1 for 4 places (12-1 for 5 places Skybet)
3.40 Ocean Legacy @ 20-1 for 4 places (16-1 for 5 places Skybet)
We are not 100% in love with these but the NH season is winding down, so we feel obligated to put something up and we are hopeful.
MikeKeymasterHi
Sharks v Edinburgh @ 13-8
Edinburgh +16.5 to beat Sharks + Under 59.5 points in the game + Sharks more tries than penalties
Crawley v Colchester Over 0 goals + Over 3 corners Crawley + Over 3 corners Colchester @ 5-6
Harrowgate v Sutton Over 0 goals Harrowgate + Over 3 corners Harrogate + Over 3 corners Sutton @ 13-10
MK Dons v Mansfield Over 0 Golas MK Dons + Over 3 corners MK Dons + Over 3 corners Mansfiled @ 6-5
Walsall v Notts County Over 0 goals Walsall + Over 0 goals Nots County @ 4-7
Here is the goalposts part of a wager taken from our Beat The Lotto (Β£) thread that we are quite sweet on π so now we have given it the kiss of death we will post it on here. Either way at 33-1 its worth a punt.
MikeKeymasterHi Suds
So close last week, lets see if we go one step further this week. π
Sharks v Edinburgh @ 13-8
Edinburgh +16.5 to beat Sharks + Under 59.5 points in the game + Sharks more tries than penalties
Crawley v Colchester Over 0 goals + Over 3 corners Crawley + Over 3 corners Colchester @ 5-6
Harrowgate v Sutton Over 0 goals Harrowgate + Over 3 corners Harrogate + Over 3 corners Sutton @ 13-10
MK Dons v Mansfield Over 0 Golas MK Dons + Over 3 corners MK Dons + Over 3 corners Mansfiled @ 6-5
Walsall v Notts County Over 0 goals Walsall + Over 0 goals Nots County @ 4-7
Aintree 1.55 Brighterdaysahead @ 11-10
This will be our usual 20x trebles plus 1x six fold and the lotto numbers will be the same as usual
4,7,16,23,31 and 50
MikeKeymasterHi Suds
Nice to know someone was following the idea…lol. Dozens of people hit on the thread but it is a bit complicated and can be a tricky read. I may well follow up on the idea as the exchanges fascinate me (it’s all that mathematics…lol) maybe we could use one of the database’s and try the idea out on the Rugby, Football or Basketball. ? I will drop you a line to see what we can come up with. By using sports with just two teams it should be easier to get your head around it. π
MikeKeymasterHi
Apologies yesterday I was engrossed in my new threadΒ Ridiculous Ideas for 2024 and should have spotted the huge drift on Mywayorthehighway who opened at 25-1 and went out to 100-1 and at one time touched 150-1. There must have been something amiss there. π Boss of the bus just didn’t last the trip in the mud and we dropped 4 points. π
We have nothing until Sunday now, but obviously with the Grand National coming up on Saturday I am sure you are all receiving advice from everywhere so do not any from me. π However we had put up Mr Incredible at 40-1 some time ago and are sticking with him. However if your desperate for an option I would not put anyone off Panda Boy 16-1 Skybet or at a bigger price Galia Des Liteaux at 40-1 again with Skybet.
Best of luck to anyone having a punt you will need it. We personally just need Mr Incredible to not sulk at the start (he has been known to refuse to race) not bite of any of the other runners the jockey (or anyone else) and we might just get lucky….lol.
MikeKeymasterHi
Here is the final result, prices and positions of the first Ridiculous Idea of 2024 π
I had plenty of time to lay Doctor Nightingale for a small profit as his price did shortened up (as predicted last night) and not only did he shorten up in price but he also went on to win. π It was a tight finish with Jeaniemacaroney finishing second and Lady Of The Locke finishing third our fourth horse in the betting finished sixth and our fifth horse in the betting finished fourth. At the tail end of the market we had three horses we thought were no hopers and two of those Her Self and Kp’s Ladyofknock duly finished last and second to last.
Jeanniemacaroney 2-1 5-6 (10-11) Finished 2nd @ 8-11 π
Doctor Nightingale 3-1 7-1 (7-1) Won @ 7-2 π
Lady Of The Locke 9-2 11-4 (9-4) Finished 3rd @ 10-3 π
Queenofthelodge 9-1 50-1 (50-1) finished 6th @ 125-1 π
Duhallow Jury 10-1 33-1 (16-1) Finished 4th @ 80-1 π
Drum Roll 12-1 33-1 (40-1) Finished 8th @ 33-1 ?
Moonlight Mist 14-1 16-1 (16-1) Non Runner
Avandra 16-1 33-1 (66-1) Finished 10th @ 100-1 ?
Dinner At Freddys 20-1 66-1 (66-1) Finished 12th @ 125-1 π
Give Me A Smile 20-1 16-1 (16-1) Finished 5th @ 16-1 ?
Duchamps Art 33-1 100-1 (40-1) Finished 9th @ 125-1 ?
Her Self 100-1 16-1 (16-1 Finished 11th @ 40-1 π
Keyser Smokesy 100-1 33-1 (33-1) Finished 7th @ 150-1 ?
Kpβs Ladyofknock 100-1 33-1 (25-1) Finished last @ 125-1 π
As you can see I am pretty chuffed with the whole thing :)… except that for me if you know you are going to make a small profit before the race starts regardless of the result there is no point or fun in watching it. π
Now if you have a big budget are doing it professionally and have the knowledge then great. If like myself you bet for fun and half the fun of it is looking forward to the watching the race and awaiting the outcome then it might not be for you.
In summary I loved the idea of trying to beat the book and I am sure I will be looking for a different way to try the idea out.Β But for now I will retire the idea gracefully until I can figure of way of using the exchange to our advantage but with a decent but manageable risk factor to make it interesting. Here’s the thing, on the site we put up Mr incredible @ 40-1 for the Grand National a few weeks ago and he is now priced up at 12-1 so you if you had done that bet, you could now double your money by cashing out the question is would you. ?? -
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