[Mike]

Hi Rob
With regard to the finding value it has become ridiculous of late as none of the array of bookmakers that are available are prepared to stand there ground. Usually within an hour of them all posting they are all in line like a little row of soldiers.
I as you know am a seat of the pants punter rather than a professional but lately the odds available early doors have restricted a lot of our selections. The (early) extra markets and exchange markets are atrocious hence the idea of myself taking a whole race on and being the first to post on the betfair exchange (by using our own tissue odds before the old enemy posts) seems a crazy but fun idea. ?
I know it is a ridiculous idea (hence the thread it will be posted on) but although the outlay to cover the markets would be a few hundred it would be fun to try it.
I am sure you all remember the buzz of sticking your head above the trenches you are either a hero or you end up six foot under but if “The Mountain won’t come to Mohammed then Mohammed must go the mountain”….lol.

[Mike]

Hi Joe
Thought we had lost you ? Sorry just a bit late to be of assistance there and I am tied up with Irish Hurdlers at the moment…lol.
Hi All
I have been hunting around all day but the best I can get for the bet builder is 20-21 for both to be in the top 5.

[Mike]

Hi Rob
Thanks for the work involved and Steve has also put the question out there and has come up with an AI answer which I have forwarded to you via e-mail. We are working over the figures ourselves and have a slightly different approach which we will post on here soon enough.
Unfortunately at present I am just renewing the site options with Ben and am working on a possible new layout. But at least it means the site will go on for another year.

[Mike]

Hi
Its a bit early posting before tonight’s horse has run but Maxicourt is available at 11-1 in the 7.00 at Tramore tomorrow and I am happy enough to take that price for 5 places 1/2 point each way.
The other two for tomorrow at Tramore are both in the same race and will form a bet builder when the market becomes available.

4.50 Journey So Far
4.50 A Snow White Park

[Mike]

Hi
We took the price as the extra markets did not appear but that can be the case with evening racecards. You do lose the BOG option but such is life.
Just to clarify if someone else takes over this thread it will run exactly as before aiming for 10+ point profit on “To Follow” horses 1 point win on bet builders and 1/2 point each way in extra market horses.

[Mike]

Hi
The double went down but Dearg Mor placed so we came out with +1.30 on the day to take us to +22.04 overall.
We have one going tomorrow in the 7.55 at Limerick which is Charlies Gift currently 14-1 for 4 places which we will take if the extra markets are not posted soon.

[Mike]

Hi
We have another non runner by way of Tiger Twins so we have gone with Lincall without War Correspondent @ 7-1 in an each way double with Happy Me @ 11-2 for 4 places. At best it will lose a point but at least gives us shot at something.
I have after yesterdays mistake had another chat with someone else to take over this thread whilst I look into the other plans on the back burner and will update at the end of the month.

[Mike]

Hi
Well “Swing and Roundabouts” today we had one bet and one winner by way of Can Happen for a +4.5 point profit which takes us up to +20.74 overall but disappointingly we missed Grey Fable who won at 22-1. We had backed this one previously Ridiculous Ideas for 2026 but as he opened at 7-1 we could not get a decent each way extra place and left him alone. Obviously I blame the hot weather not the idiot who is running the thread..lol.
We have a handful of entries tomorrow at Wexford and will update the thread tomorrow when all the extra markets open up. For tonight we have just taken the early price on the To Follow horse.

4.42 Lincall
6.49 Tiger Twins
6.49 Happy Me
7.49 Dearg Mor 33-1 (To Follow) but we have gone with the 28-1 for 5 places

[Mike]

Hi
Desert Haven is a non runner but we will go with Can Happen at 9-1 for 7 places in the hope that the drop back in distance will see him fulfill the potential he showed before he was sent handicapping over the extended trip.

[Mike]

Hi
No joy with the double but it was optimistic…lol. That brings us down to +16.24 and we have just the one bet for tomorrow subject to both going to post and that would be a bet builder in the 7.30 at Ballinrobe on
Can Happen
Desert Haven
Obviously the markets are not up yet so we will update the thread tomorrow.

[Mike]

Hi
Apologies in advance but as it is the last day of the season Sunday I am going in with 4 football bets.

Man United to beat Brighton @ 11-4
Fulham to beat Newcastle @ 9-5
Everton to beat Tottenham @ 14-5
Sunderland to draw with Chelsea @ 27-10
Curragh 3.40 Distant Storm @ 9-2
Bangor 4.45 Jetty May @ 4-1

The lottery numbers are the usual 4,7,16,23,26 and 50.

[Mike]

Hi
J’envoivalserenti never really got involved and dropped us a point which puts us back to +17.24 and as per usual this time of year there is not much happening. But we do have two each way extra’s going tonight which we will try in a long shot 1/2 point each way double @ 135.5 -1

Downpatrick 5.52 The Dancen Kid @ 9-2 without both Sea Of Doubt & Centaq
Worcester 8.11 Butchers Bill @ 20-1 without both Ice Jet & Snapius

[Mike]

Hi Rob
Two winners from two bets but especially well done with Caballo De Mar (that was some finish to a race with five across the track as they crossed the line). Also duly noted that the race distance ties in with your previous posts about the way forward.
It would appear the tipping on here has gone crazy lately with the eventual SP of your Caballo De Mar being 18-1 and Steve on the In for a penny in for a pound thread pulling in a hatful of double figure winners @ 16-1 etc I will have to put my gardening tools back in the shed and get busy….lol.

[Mike]

Hi
This one is a bit risky but looks overpriced and being only a extra markets horse is not going to break the bank at 1/2 point each way. Jockey booking stands out and if staying on his feet looks sure to be involved.
Huntingdon 8.30 (tonight) j’envoivalserenti 9-1 but @ 5-1 for 3 places looks a shot to nothing.

[Mike]

Hi
A question arose recently in chatting with Steve over the contentious issue of the going on the day at specific courses etc. We all know this can be a lottery and we all probably have our own set of adjustments. Ours works for us (in the main) but obviously we are using a figure/adjustment based on the last five years results over Irish Hurdle races. This also means we are in the main working on a set of longer distances namely between 2m & 2m 5f with the occasional 3m thrown in. The obvious issue is when say a horse runs over say the minimum trip of 5f how much will this be a factor as opposed to a plodder going on a 3 mile trek.
I sense some serious maths coming on here is it a question of race distance or race time ( as in contact with the ground) or should I just get a life or start taking more water with it….lol

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