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RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
Totally agree with you that this thread will not be interest to all punters and I must admit that the profitability of this system (so far) has surprised me.
The margins on the Top Finishes market are minuscule, hence the need for an extremely high strike rate and a rather aggressive staking plan, but that said there would have been a small profit at level stakes, so clearly there is an edge for punters with plenty of patience.
Anyway, only time will tell.
All the best,
Rob
RobmullParticipantHi folks,
Here are the further details I promise earlier today.
I started testing the system on 1 May, having allocated an initial betting bank of 50 pts and have achieved the following results:
Total bets: 135 – Winning bets: 125 – Strike Rate: 92.6%
Total staked: 992 pts – Total Returns 1127.8 pts – Total Profit: 135.8 pts Return on Investment: 13.7%
Initial Bank: 50 pts – Current Bank: 185.8 pts – Return on Bank: 272%
All very satisfactory and in line with the metrics required to generate a reasonable profit.
However, I fully appreciate that from the readers perspective these figures are worthless as I have not proofed my bets and the fore I could have just plucked these figures out of thin air.
I promise I haven’t, but will start recording future bets from Friday, albeit the staking plan and all future figures will be based on the system since launch on 1 May, rather than turning the clock back to zero.
All bets will be be placed on the Top Finishes market with B365 and as a general rule I will be looking for the lowest finishing position that is available (safety first) albeit I will accept higher finishing positions, when the odds on the preferred finishing position are prohibitively low.
Sections will be chosen from various sources, each of which will have separate staking plan, allowing stakes to increase in line with the profitability of the selection source.
I hope all of the above information makes sense, if not please let me know and I will try to explain further.
All the best,
Rob
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
I will replace Jasmin De Vaux with JIMMY DU SEUIL.
Thanks,
Rob
RobmullParticipantHi folks,
Just read that JASMINE DE VAUX will not race this season, so will have to find a replacement.
Rob.
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
I guess the argument as to whether it is better to go with BOG, or extra places depends on how risk adverse each punter is, especially as Skybet tend to factor in a cost for extra places, through offering lower odds for almost every runner in a race where they offer extra places.
Perhaps, the best way of deciding which is the optimum strategy for your system is to place split stakes on both the BOG and extra place markets and monitor which produces the greater profit, or lower loss figure (not that I am implying that your selections are unprofitable) over a period of time.
Regards,
Rob.
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
I assume we can make substitutions upto the start of the competitions?
My thoughts are as follows:
ANZADAM
BAMBINO FEVER
GAELIC WARRIOR
IL ET TEMPS
HAITI COULEURS
JADE DE GRUGY
JASMINE DE VAUX
KOPEK DES BORDES
LOVE ME TENDER
MARINE NATIONAL
THE NEW LION
THE YELLOW CLAY
I hope your recovery is going well.
All the best,
Rob.
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
Good compromise.
Perhaps we should have further splits below 30k, as follows:
Over 15k – 8 pts
Other races – 4 pts
What do you think?
Rob.
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
I will be happy to go along with the majority decision regarding the rules of this game.
However, I would suggest that it may be wise to incorporate bonus points for the quality of the race.
Otherwise we will get into a situation where a poor horse that runs say 10 times in the season and manages a sole victory in a selling hurdle at Fakenham @ 50/1 scoring 50 pts, whereas a top quality chaser who wins 5 Grade 1 events, at say even money on each occasion would score just 5 pts.
My proposal would be to award bonus points to the winners of quality open races as follows:
Grade 1 – 20 pts
Grade 2 – 15 pts
Grade 3 – 10 pts
Listed – 5 pointsGraded and listed handicaps included.
Winners of graded and listed novice, juvenile and national hunt flat races would be allocated half points, so a grade 1 novice race would be worth 10 bonus points.
Hopefully not too difficult to manage, but should ensure that the quality horses come to fore.
Please let me know what you think..
All the best,
Rob.
RobmullParticipantIt is a couple of years since I last competed, but more than happy to submit a stable.
RobmullParticipantWell done to both of you!!
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
Sorry, not been around much recently, but here is my list:
Allaho
A Plus Tard
Constitution Hill
Corach Rambler
Energumene
Galopin Des Champs
Honeysuckle
Johbon
Royale Pagaille
ZanahiyaAll the best,
Rob
RobmullParticipantHi Mike, have a look at her Soft ground form, draw bias in race and trainer form.
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
Well done or finding Kitty Galore yesterday.
I have a couple of interesting each way selections at Leopardstown today.
LUSTOWN BABA (2.05) – 25/1 BOG with B365 (5 places).
JESSE EVANS (5.30) – 12/1 BOG with William Hill (6 places).
RobmullParticipantHi Folks,
I was disappointed with HAVEYOUMISSEDME finishing eighth at Hamilton, yesterday, but both NO MORE PORTER and BIG BABY BULL ran resonably well finishing seventh and eighth at the Curragh. NO MORE PORTER provided a 2 point profit which covered my losses on the other 2 selections, so a break even situation overall and I live to fight another day.Rob.
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