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09/04/2025 at 9:23 PM #1965808/10/2025 at 9:52 PM #20303
MikeKeymasterHi
Apologies for the lack of posts and updates but I am out of hospital and on the mend now. I have been waiting to see if anyone would take over the “Ten To Follow” competition but it looks as if it is a lost cause. However we have had a “Baldrick” and will throw out a friendly challenge to other websites to see if there is any interest in a friendly competition. There would be no cash prizes etc just the challenge which was always the fun of the competition.If anyone is interested drop a post on here and if we can get enough interest I will send a challenge out. I know a few of old members usually come out the woodwork to join in this competition and maybe one of them may be able to raise a team from there current site/s.
08/10/2025 at 10:09 PM #20310
ClarenceParticipantHiya Mike, glad to hear you are on the mend . I am in, gutted there will be no 10 to follow this year, and this sounds like a bit of fun .
09/10/2025 at 8:04 PM #20312
HopefullParticipantHi mike always the first time for everything. I’ll give it a go this year with a little bit of help lol
12/10/2025 at 4:15 PM #20326
MgameParticipantHi mc
Count me in just let me know the rules and which list of horses and bonus races we are looking at as there is no Tote competition π My current site has indeed gone under π so if your looking for a few extra bodies let me know.12/10/2025 at 4:25 PM #20328
RobmullParticipantIt is a couple of years since I last competed, but more than happy to submit a stable.
13/10/2025 at 2:25 PM #20329
MikeKeymasterHi
Nice to see a few old faces back and for those who may not have seen them before Rob (Robmull) was one of the originals back in the day and G (Mgame) has been wandering in and out of the threads for a few years now and I know loves the TTF. I have yet to have anyone from any other sites take up the challenge so will lay out the general idea for this competition as it may be something we can build on. ?
Lets call it the the TFT (to avoid any copyright issues) and suggest to simplify the record keeping side of things points wise and substitution wise all lines will have twelve selections but only the top ten points scoring selections count hence TFT Ten From Twelve.
The reasoning behind this is that there will be injuries and horses that sometimes just do not run at all and this is particularly unfair as this is out of your control. Your list may consist of any twelve horses you like but to score points your horse must win a race where the result is printed on the results sheet in the Racing Post in any UK or Irish Meeting and the points scored will be the equivalent of the SP (Starting Price) on the day ie Your horse wins at 3-1 you will receive +3 points (Rule 4 deductions do not interfere with the points total).
The competition will run from 1st of November 2025 to 2nd May 2026 giving 6 monthly competitions as well the overall bragging rights. π
For those of you who have not played the game before I will (by tomorrow) list my usual selection of rather obvious choices that should compete in all the main races during the season and should pick up a few points. I personally will be listing twelve from our Irish NH data base just because I am dying to see what will happen…lol.
This is a team game so these are just the suggested rules that will be easy enough to update and keep track of during the season. If you have any suggestions or alternatives I am open to offers (but please keep them… simples…lol).13/10/2025 at 5:27 PM #20330
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
I will be happy to go along with the majority decision regarding the rules of this game.
However, I would suggest that it may be wise to incorporate bonus points for the quality of the race.
Otherwise we will get into a situation where a poor horse that runs say 10 times in the season and manages a sole victory in a selling hurdle at Fakenham @ 50/1 scoring 50 pts, whereas a top quality chaser who wins 5 Grade 1 events, at say even money on each occasion would score just 5 pts.
My proposal would be to award bonus points to the winners of quality open races as follows:
Grade 1 – 20 pts
Grade 2 – 15 pts
Grade 3 – 10 pts
Listed – 5 pointsGraded and listed handicaps included.
Winners of graded and listed novice, juvenile and national hunt flat races would be allocated half points, so a grade 1 novice race would be worth 10 bonus points.
Hopefully not too difficult to manage, but should ensure that the quality horses come to fore.
Please let me know what you think..
All the best,
Rob.
13/10/2025 at 8:05 PM #20333
MikeKeymasterHi Rob
Strangely as I was compiling the guide list of (suggested) horses to follow I was thinking along similar lines as most of them hopefully will at some stage run in graded races. Also Suds (Clarence) was asking as to whether a nominal amount of points should be awarded just for winning a race to avoid low scoring totals. ?
A possible compromise would be the setup used by a rival site (that I have thrown a challenge out to) as they list bonus points for all races won but by the value of the race. ?
Using your example the winner of the Seller “Mike’s Long Shot” would indeed amass 50 points and “Robs Banker” would have over a 100 for winning the five grade 1’s. This unfortunately would then leave “Suds Choice” say winner of two Β£10,000 handicaps at 7-1 on only 14 points. Using Jonbon and Galopin Des Champs from last years competition as (prize money won) examples I have come up with the following.
But you can adjust the prize money totals to make it more of a level playing field. ?
Over 120,000 = 20 Points
Over 60,000 = 15 points
Over 30,000 = 12 points
over 10,000 = 10 points
Any race win under Β£10,000 = 5 points13/10/2025 at 9:00 PM #20334
RobmullParticipantHi Mike,
Good compromise.
Perhaps we should have further splits below 30k, as follows:
Over 15k – 8 pts
Other races – 4 pts
What do you think?
Rob.
13/10/2025 at 10:41 PM #20335
MikeKeymasterHi Rob
All sorted there’s always a compromise somewhere.Over 120,000 = 20 points
Over 60,000 = 15 points
Over 30,000 = 12 points
Over 15,000 = 8 points
All other races = 4 pointsI will now post the suggestions list for those who are not sure how this works or those who are dabbling for the first time as it very easy to end up with all your selections running against each other. The idea is that if you pick one from every group of three you should end up with ten selections hopefully a few winners and some entries in most of the big weekend races. This will leave you two spare selections so you can have another random two from the lists if you do not fancy doing your homework.
Lulumba
Brighterdaysahead
BallyburnFact To File
Gaelic Warrior
Il Est FrancaisInowthewayurthinkin
Galopin Des Champs
MajboroughSir Gino
Marine Nationale
Kopek Des BordesLossiemouth
The New Lion
StatemanTeahupoo
The Yellow Clay
Jasmin De VauxLove me Tender
Doctor Du Mesnil
WindbeneathmywingsIrancy
Final Demand
GameofinchesJade De Grugy
Heron In The Park
Dino BlueBambino Fever
Matin Midi Et Soir
Mossy Fen Park14/10/2025 at 9:10 AM #20339APm
ParticipantHi Mike
Hope you feeling OK?I’m in π14/10/2025 at 9:31 AM #20340
MikeKeymasterHi Andy
Good Thanks. ! Got my feet up playing catch up with the site etc. Obviously feel free to choose you own twelve the list was just to assist those who may not have played before.15/10/2025 at 8:09 PM #20345
HopefullParticipant12 SELECTIONS HOPE THIS IS RIGHT FOR MY FIRST ATTEMPT THIS YEAR
Ballyburn
Il Est Francais
Inowthewayurthinkin
Sir Gino
The New Lion
Jasmin De Vaux
Windbeneathmywings
Final Demand
Heron In The Park
Bambino FeverGalopin Des Champs
Dino Blue15/10/2025 at 9:34 PM #20346
MikeKeymasterHi Hopefull
Yes that’s fine and thanks as you have got the ball rolling. I know Mgame already has a list but has queried what happens if ie Lulmba runs in a big hurdle race in France or one of the selections runs in say a flat or point to point race. This threw me for a while but I would suggest that if the result is printed in the Racing Post it counts. ?
Also should your horse be declared out for the season before the competition starts you may replace it and if you change your mind on any of the selections as long as I know by October 31st no problem. -
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