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20/01/2026 at 10:58 AM #2093321/01/2026 at 9:46 AM #20939
MikeKeymasterHi
I am finally playing catch up after a few setbacks and updates etc and have just tallied my results to date which are not impressive reading but it is early days and I am still confident.
The Horses To Follow (until they win) portion of this thread that proved to be a money spinner last year on Ridiculous Ideas for 2025 has had a slow start but when following horses the clue is in the title. I back the horse (as last year) to win +10 points but the fact that only 43% of horses in training ever actually win a race gives you an idea of the problem. With this in mind I do not expect all of my to follow horses to win but that does not mean they will end up in negative equity (in deficit) on the thread.
The reasoning behind the above point is that statistically 70% of horses hit the frame (place) so as long as you can a get decent enough price you can still keep your selections onside. This brings up the not too popular idea of expanding the thread by dabbling with Chase races and going into the extra markets such as betting without the favorite’s Bet Builders etc and ultimately the dreaded exchange markets.
I make no excuses for altering the 2025 thread as its my pram and If want to throw my toys out of it I will…lol.
I just like a new challenge and I really want to make the most of the data base we use and are still altering/working on as we speak. But I will split the thread up as promised and here are the results to date which are going the way of the old enemy so far.
To Follow Horses (Hurdlers) -3.5 points
To Follow Horses (Chasers) -1 point
Bet Builders -2.2 points
Extra Market Wagers -0.95
Total to Date – 7.65 points
The last few bets Little Ivy (Extra markets), Aswellasabentley (Horse To Follow) and the bet builder with Aswellasabentley & Surrey Force all returned a small profit but all were subject to deductions due to non runners. It is what it is….I do hopefully have a few options going tomorrow in the 2.20 at Gowran Park (subject to non runners) and will update tonight after finishing some tiling in the kitchen.
21/01/2026 at 7:36 PM #20945
MikeKeymasterHi
We have four runners in our target race tomorrow and a range of possible bets which we fill in as the extra markets and offers become available and with 6 places available are hoping for a good set of options.Gowran Park 2.20
Harty Cup 7-1
Rackemandstackem 14-1
Space Warrior 14-1
Poets Oath 16-1I am hoping for an each way single on the TFH horse Harty Cup and couple of Extra Markets wagers and/or a bet builder utilizing the other three selections.
22/01/2026 at 9:17 AM #20949
MikeKeymasterHi
With the first batch of non runners declared I have already lost Space Warrior and will have to wait a bit longer for my extra market bets . But I have taken the 13-2 for 6 places on Harty Cup as he has started to shorten. I will leave the thread open and edit when I get back as I have to pop out.
That was worth the wait with all seven non runners now declared Sky are still showing 6 places so our bets for the day now look like this….Harty Cup 1.5 points each way @ 13-2
Rackemandstackem 0.5 points each way
Poets Oath 0.5 each way
All of the above for a top 9 finish at 1 point (4-1) plus 25% bet365 (bet builder) bonus for 5-1.22/01/2026 at 3:55 PM #20950
MikeKeymasterHi
Rackemandstackem pulling up rather spoilt the day as Harty Cup placed fourth and Poets Oath placed sixth. Compund that by me rushing this morning and not putting up the prices or BOG attached extra’s and we end up with a paltry +0.25. However better than a loss and this brings the new total’s after my schoolboy mathematics from yesterday to the following running totals.To Follow Horses (Hurdlers) -3.05 points
To Follow Horses (Chasers) -1 point
Bet Builders -3.2 points
Extra Market Wagers -0.05
Total to Date – 7.40 pointsHarty Cup was the only To Follow horse today we just took the 6 places on the other two as the extra market prices were not great but there returns still count towards the Extra Market running total. I have updated this now as I have nothing until the weekend and it will clear the page for updates for the other threads.
25/01/2026 at 7:39 PM #20970
MikeKeymasterHi
We have two going tomorrow over at Punchestown and I will be looking for a small bet builder when the markets are available but until then we have one bet for tonight.
3.40 Dearg Mor 25-1 but we will go in at 1 point each way @ 23-2 for 5 places
3.40 The Dancen Kid 11-1
The second horse is looking a little high in the weights but we will reassess the option again tomorrow.26/01/2026 at 11:39 AM #20971
MikeKeymasterHi
I will go in with the usual 1 point win bet builder on both Dearg Mor and The Dancen Kid both for top a 5 finish @ 17-2.
Also as The Dancen Kid has gone out to 16-1. I will also go 1/2 point each way without both Kobalt St George & Ellies Rock @ 15-2.
It’s risky as both are drifting like barges but it’s early days and you really have to go with the flow on new ideas.26/01/2026 at 6:43 PM #20975
MikeKeymasterHi
I am beginning to feel like an ageing boxer who is making a comeback and stepping up a division in the weights. I am basically getting beaten up on this new thread as although today’s horses finished 7th and 8th at no time did they ever threaten to do anything.
This dropped me 4 points today and puts me on -11.40 at the moment.
I have two going tomorrow over at Limerick but the bet builder on both for 6 places looks likely to be the only option unless I can get a bet without both favorite/s.2.49 Tiger Twins 18-1
2.49 Nukie’s Artic 200-1
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Just taken 1/2 point on Nukies Artic at 45-1 without both dEstruval & Spectaculaur -
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